User talk:Ilovemydoodle2/Flow

I would liked to be unblocked, so I would that an independent admin start a discussion here. – Ilovemydoodle2 (talk) 01:47, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

If unblocked, how would you contribute to improve this wiki?

@Pppery: Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I thought Mediawikiwiki was exclusively used for questions and feedback? – Ilovemydoodle2 (talk) 19:17, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

It's not. The primary purpose of MediaWiki.org is to document the software Wikipedia and related websites (including itself) are running. Legitimate questions and feedback are also within scope, but I saw many of your edits as bad-faith arguing and refusal to listen rather than legitimate feedback and questions.

While I have made edits I probably shouldn’t of have, I have not made any bad-faith edits or comments here. – Ilovemydoodle2 (talk) 20:21, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Which ones in particular? (not trying to be argumentative, just genuinely not sure) – Ilovemydoodle2 (talk) 19:33, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Consider this: You've exported the "revision imported" proposal from wikiquote to three different wikis: Meta, English Wikipedia, and this one. The entirety of Topic:Wzrj1gkuzc9iqmd6 can be seen that way given the context on other wikis, but that topic itself seems to have rapidly degenerated in a similar direction (for example by refusing to honor a request to not ping, and repeatedly derailing the discussion with unrelated questions). Questioning the validity of someone's admin rights seemingly because they took an admin action you disagreed with is also not good.

You are right about exporting debates, I shouldn't of done. But, I have already apologized for that, and ceased its continuation. – Ilovemydoodle2 (talk) 19:59, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

I did honor the request to not ping on all other comments, just forgot on one. – Ilovemydoodle2 (talk) 20:27, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

I wasn’t upset with them at all (it was just a testing page), I just noticed after they deleted, that they were given admin without an RfA, which is unusual for a large wiki. – Ilovemydoodle2 (talk) 01:41, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

What exactly is wrong with topic:Wzrj1gkuzc9iqmd6? I understand the Mediawiki developer one, but I don't understand what is wrong with asking for information on how to make a local clone of a site, regardless of what intention was. – Ilovemydoodle2 (talk) 19:57, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

I already explained that above. that topic itself seems to have rapidly degenerated in a similar direction (for example by refusing to honor a request to not ping, and repeatedly derailing the discussion with unrelated questions). (similar to, for example, q:Wikiquote:Village pump#Add revision importer right). This will be my final comment on your talk page (unless someone other than you asks me to comment), since this discussion seems to be going around in circles and I believe I've adequately explained my block.

I think most of the issues have been explained or apologized for, so is possible that I can get unblocked? (I do understand the block, I just think I have resolved, explained, or apologized most of the issues with my editing) – Ilovemydoodle2 (talk) 20:45, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

@Pppery:

How do I request an unblock here? – Ilovemydoodle2 (talk) 01:06, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

@Ilovemydoodle2 You can start a new discussion on your talk page with the title unblock request, explaining why you think you should be unblocked.

I think I sufficiently listed my reasoning above. – Ilovemydoodle2 (talk) 01:15, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

@P858snake: Could you unblock? – Ilovemydoodle2 (talk) 01:14, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

@Ilovemydoodle2 I won't be unblocking your account at this time, One of the reasons I recommended a new thread so it was easy for a uninvolved admins or bureaucrats to see the request and make a decision.

@P858snake: Is there any way I can request a discussion instead? What I mean is rather than asking for a straight-up unblock, I would request that admin would ask various questions before deciding. – Ilovemydoodle2 (talk) 01:34, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Yes, I've already said twice now about starting a whole new thread on your talk page, so the request is clear and concise so a uninvolved user can see the request and make their own judgement.

I have already read @Pppery's comment around the block, and considering I was already discussing with outher admins around a possible block prior to it being applied, I will let someone else make the decision.

Continuing to make comments and not following recommends may result in your talk page access being revoked for being disruptive.

Sorry, I misunderstood your first comment, I thought you meant creating a new section with an unblock template. – Ilovemydoodle2 (talk) 01:48, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Since I've been pinged by someone else I guess I'll make a brief comment here. I am not going to unblock you as your behavior here (refusing to listen to P858Snake and others' comments to you and driving the discussion in yet another set of circles) is very similar to the behavior that led to the block in the first place, proving that you don't truly understand why you've been blocked and unblocking would not be constructive.

Also, I didn't ignore P858Snake's first comment, just misunderstood - should've read it better. – Ilovemydoodle2 (talk) 02:14, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

@Pppery: I agree with you, I don't truly understand, and I would probably repeat the same bad behavior and get re-blocked. I think the main problem I have been having with blocks is not that I am doing some new bad behavior, rather that I don't have good understanding of what I did wrong in the first place.

So, could you point out all the flaws in my editing here and on Wikipedia, and how to avoid them? – Ilovemydoodle2 (talk) 02:11, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Duplicate account was blocked.

Why are you utilizing two accounts here?

Accidental. Due to an issue with phabricator. – Ilovemydoodle2 (talk) 18:59, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

I can not log into phab with my main account. So this is set as my default login here. – Ilovemydoodle2 (talk) 19:00, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

@Praxidicae:

@Ilovemydoodle2 Please choose the account you wish to continue using on this wiki, and I will block the other one so it can't be accidently used going forward.

Please don’t block my other account, I have configured it so it will only use this account here. No need to do so. – Ilovemydoodle2 (talk) 11:28, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

I've blocked it to ensure that it doesn't get accidently used (and could be convinced as sockpuppeting), If there is a need in the future it can be unblocked.

I will be using this account. But, please mark the block as volentary. – Ilovemydoodle2 (talk) 11:20, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Please don't create unneeded templates on this wiki and use them to be disruptive on long term users talk pages.

Disruptive edits on this wiki, can, and may, result in either short term or long term blocks from editing and participating on this wiki.

Sorry! New to 'StructuredDiscussions'. – Ilovemydoodle2 (talk) 21:25, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

I've indefinitely blocked your account for the reasons given at Topic:X0ajzz2ol0tf777k, in short since you seem to be here primarily to export Wikiquote disputes to MediaWiki.org rather than to contribute constructively.

@Pppery: I understand some of the reasons listed there, but I don't understand "Extended arguing". Could explain further? – Ilovemydoodle2 (talk) 19:29, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

In short, you bludgeoned the process at Topic:Wzrj1gkuzc9iqmd6. That, by itself, wasn't enough to justify a block, but combined with your other edits, was enough to push me over the line. Several of your other posts, such as Topic:X00qjpkjtv6reidf and User talk:Malyacko#July 2022 seem to likewise be arguing for the sake of doing so and not legitimate discussion.

Also, please take into account my constructive contributions to phabricator, which cannot be used if you are blocked here. – Ilovemydoodle2 (talk) 19:49, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

I don't think being blocked on MediaWiki.org has any effect on Phabricator, and in any case I wouldn't call your Phabricator contributions constructive.

When attempting to login to phabricator, it results in an error.

Well, I later realized that forcing someone else to write code for me on something that got rejected was probably a bad idea, so I decided to it myself instead. But, I shouldn't of done that in the first place, and should've closed it. I started topic:Wzrj1gkuzc9iqmd6 so I could do it myself, rather than forcing someone else to do it. – Ilovemydoodle2 (talk) 19:38, 30 July 2022 (UTC)