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Wikimedia Release Engineering Team/Local Dev Sync/2020-02-27

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Agenda/Notes:

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  • TMH
    • Originally was a goal for local-charts
    • Might be a good way of thinking about the edges of where docker-compose stuff are
    • Discussion around building a new docker image or having a users write a dockerfile
  • missing some php modules
  • mw CLI
    • brennen: what about keeping the top level available for other things?
    • James: worried about this becoming complicated
      • Have decided we won't be supporting installing extensions for the community via composer, so this part might not be achieveable?

    • Kosta: talking through someone getting set up and some things are scary/too much for a new person, which is the inspiration fo the CLI/wrapper script
      • For extensions, they would have to work out of the box to be able to add them to the wrapper, like skins
    • Mukunda: could have a questionnaire (for popular extensions) that gets the needed variables and does the configuration
      • there should be something that specifies the schema for each extension

    • Kosta: things should be added to the maintenance script in order to set up for extensions
    • James: There is scripting for extensions for db schema changes
      • but look at issues with vagrant
    • Jeena: Let's avoid using the dev env as a dependency management solution
    • Brennen: Yeah, but hopefully we can use the env to do the most basic parts
    • Kosta: Developers.md is pretty long. if there is a wrapper script, it should hopefully reduce the length of the developers.md
      • People shouldn't have to copy things from the developers.md and paste them somewhere to get the env running
    • James: agreement that we do want some kind of wrapper script for simple things
    • Brennen: need to sign and provide hashes for the binary we ask people to dl
    • +1
    • Kostsa: is the utility just focused on the docker stack or should it allow for sub-commands?
    • Brennen: think it should allow for sub commands
      • +1 Jeena
    • James: would be nice to be able to re-use mw if not using docker in the future
    • Mukunda: mediawiki.dev top-level domain is available :)
    • James: or media.wiki
  • php storm tests


Previous action items

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  • [kosta] Docs docker in core on how to run unit tests, note that it's for temporary testing not long-term data storage, etc. 
    • Yes Done also added notes about running selenium and api-testing tests
  • File task for cleaning up maintenance/dev scripts
  • Docs for what happens when there is a new version of the docker image
  • Yes Done Update the main (Docker?) dev page with our new solution (once it's merged) and figure out where the docker recipes should go
  • Yes Done Phab component for tracking changes, update DEVELOPERS.md with reference to it and #mediawiki support channel - Using existing mediawiki-docker tag
    • [kosta] updated the docs for that
  • Yes Done Trying to get IDEs to test with k8s - Mukunda & Jeena
  • [declined] Do something about the mediawiki-docker in github

Action items:

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  • Docs for what happens when there is a new version of the docker image
  • File task for cleaning up maintenance/dev scripts
  • Make the wrapper script
    • Shorten Developers.md with wrapper script
  • Adding various needed packages to docker image for mw
  • TMH follow up
    • Brennen to plead for assistance from James if necessary
  • request k8s support from jetbrainz