User:Legoktm/pings
Pings suck because:
- Based on username linking, which is used for other things... like linking to users (c.f.
{{noping}}on enwp) - No way to verify you actually pinged someone
- Requires a signature
- Can't go back and adjust text to ping someone
- Three preceding bullets are about same general issue, namely that you can't reliably trust pings to work
- Technically possible to "go back" by re-signing the edit, probably?
Idea!:
- Create a PST magic word thing so you type in "{{#ping:User}}", which upon save is transformed into "[[User:User|User]]" (and support multiple users with $wgContLang->commaList()).
- Pinging has historically been a bit weird with template expansion; we used to have "phantom" pings caused by someone transcluding a page, mass-pinging, and then having that transclusion reverted
- Echo hooks into PST somehow to do the transformation and note which users were mentioned
- Easy for users to verify their pings went through
- How?
- Because if it went through, the wikitext would be transformed into [[User:User|User]]
- Maybe use Special:Log to log pings?
- Might help prevent abuse
- How?
- Pinging has to be deliberate, but most people are already using the wrapper template so it shouldn't be too disruptive
- Need to account for pinging abuse/mis-use
- Current pinging has hard limit for users that can be pinged
- Right, how do you handle the maximum ping limit? Does the parser function just not get transformed in this case?
- We can also display a warning and stop the edit.
- Right, how do you handle the maximum ping limit? Does the parser function just not get transformed in this case?
- Current pinging has hard limit for users that can be pinged
Notes:
- Is this even technically possible???
- Discussed in #mediawiki-parsoid on 2016-08-15 with Lego, Tim and MZ. Mostly these are Tim's recommendations:
- Add a flag like Parser::SFH_SUBST_IMPLIED to Parser::setFunctionHook(), check it in Parser::braceSubstitution() before the check for mSubstWords
- Note: Check for PST mode using
$parser->ot['wiki'] - Add new method to Content which returns the full ParserOutput as well as the new Content object; use Parser::getOutput() after preSaveTransform() returns and then prepareContentForEdit() would put the PST ParserOutput object into mPreparedEdit in a new member
- Discussed in #mediawiki-parsoid on 2016-08-15 with Lego, Tim and MZ. Mostly these are Tim's recommendations:
- On-wiki templates might be implemented differently, so overriding them with magic word might cause problems.
- Syntax is different (
{{#ping:foo}}instead of{{ping|bar}}), should be fine
- Syntax is different (
- What about saving pages that already have a old "ping" template on them? Will it trigger new notifications?
- Matt pointed out that the syntax would be {{#ping:User}} so it wouldn't conflict.