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Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

@Tacsipacsi, about this: I always want to link directly to this page, and when it's marked as a disambiguation page, VisualEditor hides the link from the linking tool. I generally link to this page when I ask people to look at the screenshots and figure out which editor they were using when they encountered the bug.

Tacsipacsi (talkcontribs)

Maybe it could be renamed to a name that better describes its purpose, like List of editor interfaces? Although Editor would still need to be a disambiguation page so that so that people unintentionally linking to it are warned. (Does putting {{Disambiguation}} on a redirect work?)

On the other hand, if the VisualEditor linking tool completely hides disambiguation pages, that’s a bad decision IMO, as there are many cases, including this, where one wants to link an ambiguous term to a disambiguation page. Asking for a confirmation before linking to disambiguation pages is okay, making it impossible is not.

By the way, why does this talk page still use Flow? I miss the live preview of DiscussionTools…

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Editor needs to point to this page, because I've made a couple dozen links to it across several wikis. Redirects along the lines of List of editing environments could be created, if you wanted, but I don't think it's necessary, and I'm not sure anyone would use the longer names.

I don't know how disambiguation tags would work in combination with a redirect.

I can't imagine why one would want to link to a disambiguation page on this wiki, especially for this subject. If you renamed this page, and made Editor into a disambiguation page, the contents of the resulting page would be this page plus a redlink to User.

(@Trizek (WMF) or @Quiddity (WMF) would know how to convert this page to plain old wikitext, if that's still easy to do.)

Tacsipacsi (talkcontribs)

Editor needs to point to this page, because I've made a couple dozen links to it across several wikis. Redirects along the lines of List of editing environments could be created, if you wanted, but I don't think it's necessary, and I'm not sure anyone would use the longer names.

Sorry, but this sounds like you thinking your idea is the one and only correct one, anything else I propose is wrong. Editor doesn’t need to point (redirect) to this page, as people rarely read old discussions you linked to it in, and even when they do, what I propose would of course let them find it in at most one extra click.

I can't imagine why one would want to link to a disambiguation page on this wiki, especially for this subject.

Ehm, that’s exactly what you do, to make people disambiguate their ambiguous references to “the editor”? On the other hand, disambiguation pages are for ambiguous terms, where people may falsely think that they link to the correct page; in this case, people don’t want to link to a disambiguation page, but they do link to it. Software can warn them (the plain old (2003/2010) wikitext editor has been doing so lately, I don’t have much experience with VE in this regard) so that they link to the page they actually want, but only if the page is machine-readably flagged as a disambiguation page.

Quiddity (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I'd suggest that the Editor page is not a disambig, but instead is more of an overview article.

I.e. This page is often the intended and last destination, for people either refreshing their memories about which Editor is which, or for people just learning about the complexities of the term.

I have seen many external links pointing to this page, from Discord discussions, Mastodon threads, and emails. They all intended to reference this page.

I think it would be reasonable to rename it to "Editors" (currently an incoming redirect), but I don't see any great benefit in adding more complexity beyond that. I'd also hesitantly mention Enwiki's (somewhat whimsical but still a useful-perspective) w:WP:NOTAG essay. I.e. There isn't an actual problem here (e.g. confused readers) that needs solving, so I'd propose removing the tag and simply changing the intro sentence to "This page provides an overview of the different types of Editor software on Wikimedia wikis". Keep the solutions simple!

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