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Hello! I wanted to deliver issue that is happening with translation of content by DDPAT 2.0 aka DDPAT Knife Series into Ukrainian and Russian. Unfortunately, user is notorious for his machine translatons that in many cases do not have any sense. For instance, diff and diff. He is esspecially bad at translating long and complex sentences. To be fair, he can have some okay-ish small translations from time to time but prior examples just do not let me not to report this situation to the community and admins. On translatewiki, discussion on temporary removal of translation right was started because of the same reason. I, myself, spoke countless times with user via Ukrainian Wiki Discord, trying to persuade him, first of all not to use Google translate and not to translate things he has no clue about but, unfortunately, seems like it does not work. What can be done in this situation? P.S. Note also that, for example, this translation done by user was deleted as low quality one.

I'm sorry, but I don't translate here into Russian. And secondly, translation is allowed to all users here, so why not just correct my translations if there are no major problems with it everywhere? And I also translate what I know more than what I don't understand.

OK, sorry i misunderstood Old revision of Translations:Manual:MediaWiki feature list/61/uk: basically, first of all you published Russian translation (which supposed to be Ukrainian) and then changed it.

See also Translatewiki:Thread:Support/Request temporary removal of translation right for user:DDPAT on translatewiki.net

As someone told me, "there is diligence, there is talent, but a little understanding of their language is not quite. So you can write it off as an advantage with a small drawback."

I hope they understand me.

I am forced to support Renvoy in that something has to be done. I would suggest banning the user from translations for a year or so. I did my share of AGF by trying to persuade him to pay more attention to his work, read carefully, not rush, study the subject before making translations and taking his time to practice English elsewhere before publishing translations of twn or here. In discussions on public Discord server he has shown what is, to my mind, utter malunderstanding of the purpose of volunteer translation, saying "who uses dictionaries in 2021?", "why don't you correct translations after me", "don't tell me you're lazy to correct me, someone else will", "if translators to Russian demand that I stop, I will" etc. I believe that giving the user free time to study English with a teacher now would be useful for their future work.

Unfortunately, today I once again was fixing incorrect translations, done by user: 1, 2, even after all talks.

You corrected my messages, and what? Everyone corrects mistakes. Especially... these are simple user subpages.

Ok, I've blocked User:DDPAT 2.0 for editing translations for 3 months.

Some browsers, specially Google Chrome and derivatives, come with automatic translation tools. If a page is not translated, such browsers will translate the text on the fly. Basically, there's no need to fill the translation with machine translations, because people that really want to translate things will see those pages as already translated when they aren't, and will be left with incorrect translations. On the other hand, such machine translations can be confusing and misleading.

I consider sufficient warnings have been made to the user, with suggestions to skip translations where the user is not comfortable enough with the meaning of the text or how to translate it, but the user decided to ignore them.

Let's see if after that time DDPAT 2.0 reconsiders those suggestions or continues to create problematic translations.

I'm sorry. I want to edit the translations of my test page.

You won't be able to edit translation until the block expires. That's the purpose of the block.

I apologize for the aggression, but then how do you order me to edit the translations of my test page? Ask someone to edit them for me?

I can remove your test page from the translation system, so you can edit them as normal wiki pages if you like.

@Ciencia Al Poder I apologize. And if I can talk to the user who complained about me, can I be unlocked? Because I'm not going to follow this wiki again, except to edit my test page?

Why is there no answer?

I replied already. I think it would be clear already, but if not, I'll summarize:

• If you're not going to follow this wiki again, you get no benefit from being unblocked from translating.
• If you only want to edit your test subpage, I've already provided an alternative solution in the message linked above. This already implied I won't unblock you.

the test page was about politic - deleted by me. i am able to proofread machine translations in russian language (if i have time) if this user will learn something from this