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Editing labels or values

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Vriullop (talkcontribs)

I see a potential confusion with the pencil icon, does it edit the value of the statement or the label of the value? Currently on Catalan Wikipedia, and other projects using the same Wikidata module, it is used for labels missing in local language. See w:ca:Angela Merkel with an icon for English fall back "Polytechnic Secondary School Templin" and even "Q56230686" with no English label, or similarly w:se:Angela Merkel and w:ast:Angela Merkel.

Should we use two icons, for labels and values?

Lea Lacroix (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

The Wikidata Bridge will edit the value of the statement, not the label of the value. In the future, we could add a link to the item of the value on Wikidata (eg Polytechnic Secondary School Templin) but I don't see the tool being able to change or add labels, this would add more levels of complexity and make it difficult to understand for the users we're targetting (casual Wikipedia editors).

I agree that the identical icon is confusing, and we should think about how we want to organize it: maybe a pencil to edit the value, and something else to edit the labels?

Amadalvarez (talkcontribs)

Hi, Léa. I understand and agree that Bridge is oriented to change infoboxes values, not infoboxes labels.

However, when the value shown was in another language (because the local label of the value doesn't exist), Bridge editors will click to change, because their point of view would be "the value I'm seeing is not correct". Then, Bridge will show "the correct value in incorrect language". What can the editor do to enter the correct value in the correct language?.

In other words, how to enter missing labels in your language using Bridge.

If I do not explain so well, just tell me and I prepare an example.

Salut !

Lea Lacroix (WMDE) (talkcontribs)

Thanks for describing the usecase, it is quite clear :)

For the first version of the Bridge, this case will not happen, because the tool will not be able to edit values are other entities - it will be only things like dates and numbers.

However, we will keep this usecase in mind for the next steps where we will start editing entities values.

Vriullop (talkcontribs)

Thanks. Then we sould think on changing the pencil icon, maybe indicating the language code of the fall back used: Polytechnic Secondary School Templin (en) with "(en)" linked to labels and the pencil used by Wikidata Bridge for the value.

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