Topic on Talk:New Editor Experiences/Flow

just curious...

Thank you! It's on this site mainly because we wanted people with less editing experience to be able to comment using Flow and also because the long-term goal was to figure out what software the Wikimedia Foundation could build to better support new editors.

Even to me, Meta feels like a more proper place, but in my experience content is divided between Meta, MediaWiki, and Wikitech so inconsistently that I've given up worrying about it.

>we wanted people with less editing experience to be able to comment using Flow

If you want to lower the barrier for responses from non-editors, you're better off dumping Flow and pointing them to a normal off-the-shelf internet chat board.

If you want to lower the barrier for responses from editors (even low-experience editors) you're better off dumping Flow and giving us a normal Talk page.

I don't want to make a wall-of-text trying to explain, but in short, the community rejected Flow, and Mediawiki is the only significant deployment of Flow, for good reasons. Flow is an obstacle to getting feedback or engagement from editors on Mediawiki.

Thank you. I am well aware of Flow's current status and your views on it.

This page was created more than two years ago and the project is long over (with the WMF's Growth team now making use of its recommendations). I need to update the page to reflect that.

Wikimedia Research is also on Mediawiki.

You can follow the next steps Neil mentions by visiting the projects aiming to help new users : Growth.