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Talk to us about talking

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Keithf (talkcontribs)

Thank you for making the effort to facilitate open/public discussion of the wide variety of topics covered in the myriad of Wikipedia's articles. We have an observation regarding the semantics of your initial offer for increased communications with the Wikipedia community. Talking "to" another person/group suggests addressing them with one's own thoughts/ideas, dictatorial. Talking "with" another person/group suggests a two way conversation seeking to elicit the thoughts/ideas of the other, cooperative. It's subtle but over decades we have observed its efficacy.

Suijur (talkcontribs)

Many talk pages/discussion pages (ones that I have contributed too) appear to be dominated by oppressive censures (individual and group) who like to hear/proclaim themselves and their opinions speak/write. All too often (again, in my contributions) do I run into factions espousing their personal arguments, to a degree of tyranny. Guidelines for articles do not seem to apply to talk/discussion pages. Hence, I personally withdraw my further contributions (to the talk and ultimately to the article).

Furthermore, articles (those in which interest myself or my study) seem a bit gloated with irrelevant material, or at least in no logical symmetry, and upon review of the history, seem to be dominated by 'pov'.

I do not think rebuilding a talk/discussion page is an answer, I do think responsible moderation is applicable.

Suijur (talkcontribs)

Please excuse my arbitrary inference.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Thank you both for your feedback.

The social aspect is also under consideration. We have several users, from several communities, who expressed that.

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