Hi!
Currently with the new wikitext editor I cannot use the tools and gadgets. As you can see, there are some differences between the new and the old editor. The biggest problem is that the edit-tools (which usually are on the top and the bottom of the page) are missing. Is there any way to use them in the new editor? Best regards!
Are you missing the MediaWiki:Edittools (a sort of special-character inserter)?
Not exactly, but this is a missing too. I posted this topic about the editing gadgets which are missing if I use the new wikitext editor. On huWiki there are a lot of useful gadgets which don't have English pairs therefore I cannot link them. But RefToolbar and WikEd has. I think the RefToolbar's "advanced" and "help" tab is very useful for new and experienced editors. Could you add these tabs?
Gadgets have to be converted; VisualEditor/Gadgets and subpages have information about that process.
I think that everything in the "Advanced" tab except nowiki tags (about which, see phab:T157625) and perhaps redirects is available already in the existing toolbar. Which things are you having trouble finding?
From the "advanced" tab only these two functions are missing. I will be honest: mostly I'm missing the "help" tab. It has a "references" minor-tab, which is a huge help. If I don't know the exact end of a reference (and I use the old editor) I just click on it and I copy the sample. In summary: could you add the nowiki tag and redirect functions (which would be useful for everybody) and think a little bit about the help tab?
I think that I need a screenshot for the help content. The English version doesn't contain anything about references.
Here is one-one picture. It has only four different sections with examples (as you can see on the pictures).
I found it! I didn't scroll down far enough the first time. Thanks.
Have you tried using the "Cite" button in the 2017 wikitext editor? It should be adding all the ref tags for you.
Yes, I have. The biggest problem is that the "re-use" button doesn't work in wikitext editor yet, only in the Visual Editor. Could you fix it? And in summary of the topic, I'm missing the following options from the "insert" tab:
*<nowiki> tag
*redirect mode
*<br /> tag
I don't know whether they can make the re-use button work, but I've asked: phab:T164954. It will probably only be able to re-use citations that are already named. (As a short-tem workaround, in article/content spaces, you can switch to the visual mode to insert the citation, and then switch back. That won't help you on a talk page, though.)
<br /> tag at phab:T164956.Is that the whole list?
And one more thing. If I click on the “page option” -> “options”, I see five sections. Categories, page settings, advanced settings and languages are grey and I cannot click on them. They are grey in page options too. Are they new functions and they are under developing currently?
These work in VisualEditor's visual mode, but they're still working on them for the wikitext mode. I think it'll be a while yet.
@Whatamidoing (WMF): I checked the tasks today but there aren't any changes since a month. What do you think will there be any changes in the close future?
I don't know. The normal deployment train has broken three weeks in a row. Therefore, almost nothing new has reached the Wikipedias for three weeks.
Still hoping for the tasks to be worked on. Honor to those who take the initiative.
The ones proposed in phab:T157625, phab:T164956 (and the ones proposed in the topic Edittools (HTML entities, tags, matching character combinations)).
I see. To be honest, we should use Hlist template instead of HTML-breaks. However, it is too complicated for a standard user (or sometimes for me, of course).
What to use depends on the project and it's language version. de-wikipedia has no Template:Hlist, but gives detailed descriptions where <br /> can be used (see here) and specific cases of use (e. g here).