Topic on Talk:Compact Personal Bar/Archive 2

I suggest some flyouts in one row 1. page, 2. talk, 3. search box, then the icons and at last the personal flyout:

Inside page (article, help, ...) flyout

   Page

   –––––––––––––––––––
  
   Edit

   History

   –––––––––––––––––––

   Move

   –––––––––––––––––––
   ... maybe:
   What links here
   Related changes
   Page information
   related page on sister projects
   wikidata item

Inside talk (article talk, help talk, ...) flyout

   Talk

   –––––––––––––––––––

   Edit

   History

   –––––––––––––––––––

   Move

   –––––––––––––––––––

   ...

Inside Search box flyout (no changes)

Search box

   suggestions
    ″
    ″
    ″
    ″
    containing

Outside of flyout (icons):

   Watchlist

   Messages / flyout

   Notification / flyout

Inside personal flyout:

   Username

   –––––––––––––––––––

   Contributions

   Watchlist (count[1])

   Messages (count)

   Notifications (count)

   –––––––––––––––––––

   Other items added by extensions & gadgets[2]

   –––––––––––––––––––

   Preferences

   Beta

   Language

   –––––––––––––––––––

   Privacy (WMF specific)

   Help

   –––––––––––––––––––

   Log out

Sounds a lot like some of the things we've done in the prototype for unicorn.wmflabs.org/winter/ have you taken a look at that?

http://unicorn.wmflabs.org/winter/ Link :)

(More details at Winter)

I took a look now. Yes, it is similar, but the flyout for contents should be splitted to contents and talk. And now I have to click to open the content flyout. Since, in Winter, I need four clicks to open the talk history. One (mouseover and one) click should be enough.

Good point Diwas, talk history is currently a few clicks away. (although only 2 not 4 though…?) however, I'm not sure that its something we really need to make more visible than 2 clicks away. Especially in light of how much easier it it for people to use Flow than current talk pages, this instance where the average user will need to access talk history pages will hopefully be much more infrequent.

The flyout (there in Winter) do not open for me by mouseover, but only by click. But this is nothing we have to research. When you are reading the talk page and you want to open the article history, you need two clicks. Yes, it is only one wasting click, but it needs only one little icon to split article (with it's history and edit and more) and talk (with it's history and edit and maybe more). Since now, when you are reading the article, the flyout shows article (read article), edit (edit article), discussion (read discussion), history (article history). When you are reading the talk, the the flyout shows article (read article), edit (edit talk), discussion (read talk), history (talk history). This may be the context-menu concept, but the items are ambiguous. It is a mix of stable items and items with changing action by stable labels (history, edit). One extra icon would be more easy and efficient. When you are reading, editing or see the history of the arrticle, the article icon should be highlighted (a little bit). When you are reading, editing or see the history of the talk, the talk icon should be highlighted.

6tabs-vector userscript in action

For many years I used the "6tabs" userscripts to add the history links to my personal UI. ( vector version, monobook version), and I really liked having those history links instantly available.

(I stopped using it because it doesn't work well with WikiLove and VisualEditor. I partially use Navigation Popups for semi-quick access to things like this, although it's not possible to use Navpopups to directly access the talkpage-history from the article itself..)

I agree that being able to subtly tweak this kind of thing, is very useful for powerusers. Particularly because the reverse is also often true - when I'm on the talkpage, I often want to consult the history of the article/project page.

(Personally, I never use the "jump straight to editing" link, because I always need to read the page first! But I assume it is useful for some editors' use-cases, as it is also the top-link in the Navpopups actions menu (?).)

If I move the mouse pointer from the top, out of the window, down to the search box, it is hidden by the compact personal bar. Which can be solved by an integration of page ,talk, search box and compact personal bar into one superbar. Or you add a search box on the second position in the compact personal bar..