Last meeting's next steps:

Kevin to send email. T125577
- Done. no significant response from recipients
Joel to book meeting with Jaime/Lila
- Meeting happened this morning

Review Milestones

Milestone 1: Getting agreement on the definition

Should we do any more with this?

Grace: does it add value to continue?

Kevin: let's ask Jaime if he sees value in pushing for any more community discussion on this during this quarter. Guessing no.

David: Ask people how granular, frequent, and how wide this needs to be. Kevin: that's for the third milestone. What about definition?

Kristen: let's ask our key stakeholders if we can declare this done (Wes, Jaime)

Kristen: one thing we didn't get to is clarifying who is the core stakeholder for this

Kevin: I propose that we ask Jaime if he is willing to be our sole contact

Kristen: Jaime seemed to think teams are getting value from this.

Grace: Are they?

Kevin: He may be thinking that since teams (really just POs/managers) used the distinction in the annual plan paperwork, they are on board with it. That may be a stretch. We should clarify.

Proposed next steps

ask stakeholders, can we declare the milestone "Done"
- not quite, since it's for agreement, but retitle to "there is a definition". maybe blocked because people don't have enough info to agree, and Jaime says not urgent.
ask Wes/Jaime, how should Jaime's participation affect our stakeholder list and point(s) of contact? Who is the 1 PO/customer for this, and who represents the execs?

Milestone 2: Agree on how to measure.

2b

How and how often to state/post this data?

Kevin: Propose we drop this for this quarter, other than whatever phlogiston already supports from teams already doing it "for free"

DS: agree with Kevin. We have proven many ways to report work from teams.

Next step

Pause this until after Annual Planning, and communicate that that means we won't get big, detailed measurement starting July 1.

Milestone 3: Measure for 1 week for 1 team.

Kevin: Propose we drop this for this quarter, other than whatever phlogiston already supports from teams already doing it "for free"

same as 2

Next Steps

Joel to draft stakeholder communication, circulate to TPG
followup on that email TBD/followup with Wes next week in regular meeting..