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Content displayed by the Review button is not helpful

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5.147.163.199 (talkcontribs)

At least in the German WP, clicking the Review button (labelled "Link überprüfen" there) displays nothing more than the link to the disambiguation page which is not helpful. because the user cannot see which other link to use instead of that to the disambiguation page.


In order to be helpful, the content displayed should contain the links referred to by the disambiguaion page, such that the user can decide which one to use. Clicking one of the displayed links should replace the link to the disambiguation page with the chosen one in the wikitext editor. -- Juergen ~~~~

PerfektesChaos (talkcontribs)

I guess the proposal is heading for a JavaScript popup with the first dozen of content lines, with clickable links as rendered within disambiguation page.

Some disambiguation pages might contain hundreds of persons with family name Smith in some wikis, therefore some size limitation is needed. However, with scrollbars a large number of locations, people, movies, companies sharing a certain keyword may be offered.

MusikAnimal (talkcontribs)

This was the original approach at phab:T288589, but we decided against it for basically the same reasons PerfektesChaos mentions. That sort of functionality just doesn't work well with the standard MediaWiki notification popup. I think what we were doing before was doing a title search (i.e. you type "New York", but you could mean "New York City" or "New York (state)", etc.). That assumes all the desired pages have the same prefix, which is not necessarily true, so we finally bailed on the idea. Grabbing the links from the disambiguation page itself would be better, but such pages are not in a structured format that we can easily parse.

PerfektesChaos (talkcontribs)

Yes. The refferred task says just “warning wikitext editors after typing” and also “proof-of-concept”.

An extended solution would not work within tiny notification popup.

On any disambiguation link another approach would be helpful:

  • Open a popup, 30 % width of current wiewport, perhaps 50 %, and height as needed but limited to 50 %.
  • Insert parsed content of the whole disamb page; provide at least vertical toolbars.
  • While a few pages may be quite large, most disamb pages are quite small and might even fit into that popup.

There is a wide variety of formats at global wikis, and they may be structured in manifold systems. Do not care about parsed content, it is hopeless.

  • It is needed to distinguish between a famous person, other people with the same name, mountains, islands, towns, states named after this person, ships in different decades, movies and biographies and musicals telling the carreer. Just take “Washington”.
5.147.163.199 (talkcontribs)

Aren't the links as data objects available in structured (parsed) form which is already used to provide the special "What links here" page ? If this could be utilized in the reverse direction, there would be no need display the whole disamb page but only a (shorter and faster to create) list of target links. -- Juergen

PerfektesChaos (talkcontribs)
  1. Everything is available in every required format.
  2. "What links here" is not helpful since that might be thousands of entries. The structured formatted disambiguation page with people, geogrphy, ships is needed.
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Working with the citation tool?

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Sdkb (talkcontribs)

@NRodriguez (WMF), would it be possible to get the disambiguator to work with the source editor citation tool? We often link publication names, which often require disambiguation, so it's an easy place to trip up.

NRodriguez (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hey there, good to hear from you and thanks for reaching out. We scoped our changes to be explicitly for the top two most used editors: VE and Wikitext 2010. Unfortunately, the editor citation tool uses a different editor so that functionality is out of scope. We wrapped work on that wish late last year, but if you wanted it to be available as a new feature, it's possible to submit it as a wish and have it go through the normal voting process of 2023. Hope that helps! Sorry I can't be more immediately helpful.

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