Wikitext/2011-01 format discussion
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(Redirected from User:RobLa-WMF/2011-01 format discussion)This is an attempt to structure the many discussions from many threads on wikitech-l:
- What would be a perfect wiki syntax? (Re: WYSIWYG)
- WYSIWTF working demo
- Big problem to solve: good WYSIWYG on WMF wikis
1. Goals: what are we trying to achieve?
- Tool interoperability
- Alternative parsers
- GUIs
- Real-time editing (ala Etherpad)
- Ease of editing raw text
- Ease of structuring the data
- Template language with fewer squirrelly brackets
- Performance
- Security
- What else?
2. Abstract format: regardless of syntax, what are we trying to express?
- Currently, we don't have an abstract format; markup just maps to a subset of HTML (so perhaps the HTML DOM is our abstract format)
- What subset of HTML do we use?
- What subset of HTML do we need?
- What parts of HTML do we *not* want to allow in any form?
- What parts of HTML do we only want to allow in limited form (e.g. only safely generated from some abstract format)
- Is the HTML DOM sufficiently abstract, or do we want/need some intermediate conceptual format?
- Is browser support for XML sufficiently useful to try to rely on that?
- Will it be helpful to expose the abstract format in any way
3. Syntax: what syntax should we store (and expose to users)?
- Should we store some serialization of the abstract format instead of markup?
- Is hand editing of markup a viable long term strategy?
- How important is having something expressible with BNF?
- Is XML viable as an editing format? JSON? YAML?
4. Tools (e.g. WYSIWYG)
- Do our tool options get better if we fix up the abstract format and syntax?
- Tools:
- Wikia WYSIWYG editor
- Magnus Manske's new thing
- Line-by-line editing
....list goes on...
5. Infrastructure: how would one support mucking around with the data?
- Support for per-wiki data formats?
- Support for per-page data formats?
- Support for per-revision data formats?
- Evolve existing syntax with no infrastructure changes?